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Wild altum angels

Discussion in 'Other Amazonian Wilds' started by streety, Sep 5, 2016.

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    Morning all,
    So on Friday I did something rash! I called into Pier aquatics on my way home from work to find they have some wild collected altums in! They are ready for sale but I didn't have a cycledtank ready. I have bought 8 and they are keeping them for me until I can take them (big thank you to them for that).
    They are keeping them in water as near as possible to there native collection point. My qt tank will be ro water with bog wood and alder cones so should be good for them.
    My query is, will I be able to get them used to slightly higher gh/Kh and ph (6.5 ish) to go in my display tank with some Satanaperca daemon, Iguanadactes geisleri and some various L numbers?
    All replies gratefully received.
    James
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    This can be achieved but as usual needs to be done very slowly and with a great deal of care. Had mine sat in PH7.2. Good look with them they are great fish !
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    I don't plan on raising the ph that high. I may need to re home my royal panaque though. I don't think he would like the parameters. I think the Satanaperca would be OK at a lower ph, I only raised the ph in the display tank so I could keep L numbers a bit better. I may move them on. Which L number's could be kept with them?
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    Once acclimatised, altums are like tanks. Check how they have been acclimatised but if you need to take them quick, do what you have to to match parameters from PA and then slowly bring to your normal Paramus. they do well with discus, my 12 are in with 3 reds from Mark and thriving without bullying........although they are prone to eating tetras, ottos.....in fact anything that fits in their big gobs! ;) they get tall too, mine are on average 12", so a deep tank essential to let this happen and show them at their best.
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    Looking good. They will grow like wildfire. Not everyone's taste but I like the river bed look, suits altums and wild discus I think.
    How deep is your tank?
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    Thanks. The tank that they are in at the moment is 18 inch. It's not the permanent home. I've got a pair of 'santa isabella' angels in my display tank so I'm going to grow the altums on a bit while I work out what to do with them!
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    Looking good lots of food and good water and watch them grow. Like the use of the pear dumpy leads :) hope there are no rigs on the end of them !
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    Yup, 18" not tall enough for these guys to grow on. Don't leave it too long to get them in a 24" minimum depth or they may stunt. I keep mine in a 30"........bit of a job hoovering it, especially since it is 3/4 way up the wall! Cue to stepladder lol
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    Just got to find a home for my other angels then they will be in the big tank.
    Hipflask, did you put your smaller ones straight into your main tank or did you grow them out a little first. I thought mine may do better in a smaller tank for a while rather than straight into a community. What do you guys think?
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    Straight in. By the time I got them I only had the display left.
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    Quick update. I had a little panic thinking over the weekend, they seemed to be a little 'subdued ' for want of a better word. Ran all my tests and nothing there, don't panic, calm down I tell my self.
    I get home from work today and take a peek in the garage, flick the light on and there they are at the front of the tank waiting for me! Not yet eating out of my fingers but all eating well. Panic over☺.
    I think my ph is ever so slightly higher than they had at Pier (maybe 0.2 or 0.3) and that plus moving them caused the little stumble, who knows. Or maybe everything is going wrong.....................calm down,don't panic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Don't panic capt mainwearing, don't panic! lol
    If they eating, they are fine.
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